https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFEAe_Olx08&t=9629s They are well funded and well connected and they extract a lot of money from unsuspecting supporters for much less than adequate consideration. Their goal is making a lot of money and they do. They know the earth is not flat but they promote bad research, bad math, and basically anyone that has been to grade 12 can debunk these turkeys. If you are thinking of becoming a Flat Earther then think about this: There is a complex and accurate math formula for determining how far you can see based on how high up you are from a lake or ocean. The simple formula is 2/3 feet (8 inches) x miles squared. Look at a picture of the CN tower from 30 miles away taken from water level at Niagara on the lake. 2/3 x 30 x 30 = 600 feet should be blocked out behind the curve. Look at the CN tower and you clearly see a large chunk of the base is missing, around 500 feet. The other 100 is because the tower is built 100 feet above the water. End of discussion.